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Drainage Contractors’ Questions Answered – Live!

Episode 123 | 38 min

With Guests:

Karl Guetter, Farmer and Prinsco Agriculture Segment Lead
Jamie Duininck, Host and Prinsco CEO

Jamie and Karl are in the hot seat on this live episode of The Water Table Podcast. From questions about the future of water management and drainage water recycling to what they would ask President Trump about agriculture, Jamie and Karl tackle it all in front of an audience of drainage contractors. Live, unedited, and unpredictable… What’s on the minds of folks in our industry?

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That’s one of the reasons why we started The Water Table Podcast… what we do is really misunderstood.

— Jamie Duininck

Guest Bios

Karl Guetter

Karl Guetter is Prinsco’s Agriculture Segment Lead, bringing a unique blend of industry expertise and firsthand farming experience to the role. As a farmer in Southern Minnesota, Karl understands the daily challenges and long-term decisions farmers face. He combines his practical knowledge with his business acumen to help Prinsco develop and deliver solutions that meet the real-world needs of agricultural producers.

Karl is passionate about sustainable farming practices and dedicated to helping farmers maximize their yields while protecting their land and water resources. He is a valuable resource for both farmers and drainage contractors, offering insights and advice on the latest trends and best practices in agricultural water management.

Jamie Duininck

Jamie Duininck is passionate about the water management industry because of the wealth it builds for generations to come. He started The Water Table podcast to have and share thought-provoking conversations with knowledgeable and passionate people in the water management industry and beyond. His hope is to educate people about the importance of agricultural water management topics and how they impact the industry.

Having grown up in the water management industry, Jamie Duininck found a deep appreciation for the history, people, and important role of water management in our communities and our world. He is the CEO of Prinsco, a third-generation family business, as well as a husband, father and avid outdoorsman.

Jamie Duininck (00:00):

Well, welcome, everyone, to the first ever Water Table Live podcast. My name’s Jamie Duininck, host of the Water Table. This will be our 123rd episode in the last five years of doing this, first one live. We’re live from the O’Neill’s Event Center here in Spicer, Minnesota. So welcome. We’re doing a Prinsco drainage school here today with about roughly 40 customers in the audience. Thanks for all being here and I hope today is a great day for you of learning and interacting with others, getting to know others, and it’s always good whatever industry you’re in to build relationships within that industry with others. As you have problems in your business, as you have challenges, you can bounce them off each other, so welcome. Thanks for being here.

(00:52):

We just want Karl Guetter, our ag sales segment lead, is with me today and we want to just talk all things water management and drainage. So thanks for being here, Karl.

Karl Guetter (01:03):

Glad to be here. It’s been a fun morning so far. We had a few people ask a few questions, but I think it’s just a tribute to you guys. As a manufacturer, we produce a pipe, but we don’t necessarily get real hands-on on the installation part, but what we really do care about is that the projects that get done get done right for a number of reasons, right? Because as you mentioned before, it’s people that aren’t necessarily in our industry that watch this stuff, that tune in, and I think to some degree, they’re curious as well, right? And it’s just the fact that you guys are here wanting to learn more to do things right, do it right for your customers, do it right for the environment, do it right for everyone. I think it is a testament to what kind of guys you guys are, and thank you for being here.

Jamie Duininck (01:44):

Great. Well, let’s start with a few questions that we have. Karl, you want to share one?

Karl Guetter (01:52):

Yeah, we can kick one off here. Here’s one says, “As contractors, how do we answer questions from the community about the environmental impact of drainage?”

Jamie Duininck (02:03):

Well, as I mentioned before we went live, that’s one of the reasons why we started the Water Table podcast was really, the community doesn’t understand. What we do is really misunderstood. I don’t know if some of you saw Kent Rodelius who was here over lunch. Kent retired at the beginning of the year, but had been with Prinsco for over 40 years. And Kent always said to me, “People don’t know.” He’ll get a call still a couple years ago, once or twice a year for a woman somewhere saying, “Hey, can you sell me bathroom tile” because they didn’t know what this was.

(02:38):

And I say that just because that’s how misunderstood it is and so that’s really one of the main reasons why we started the Water Table was to be able to share what we do with our city cousins and why managing the water on the landscape is so important to water quality, even though they’re being told it’s the opposite. When it goes through a drainage system, it’s hitting the streams and rivers and there’s nitrate in it and it’s all polluted. In reality, if you don’t have that system, you’re having even worse problems with surface runoff and taking the soil sediment with it and the same chemicals.

(03:18):

So that’s one of the ways that we want to continue to educate and to connect to the community is through things like this drainage school to be able to share technical information with you, the podcast to be able to educate and have all of the information on the Water Table website so people can go back and refer to it. We don’t know of a better way than just to connect person to person. It takes a long time, but when you’re competing with the news stations and the media and even government, at times, where they have the misconception of what’s being done or they have an agenda, it’s hard to do unless you just go grassroots, person by person, but…

Karl Guetter (04:02):

I would agree, although I will say I think it’s better because if you go back 20, 25 years, we were still talking about whether or not drainage works. But if you look at some of even the programs the government is coming up with, I mean, I think it’s becoming a recognized idea at least that soil health is important, right, and for soil health to be important, you obviously have to have control of your water table.

(04:27):

So I do feel like that non-farming, non-contractors, non-pipe suppliers, right, are seeing the value of managing water tables. I think we could do more like this that we’re doing today, not only for contractors, obviously, but we did one, actually. We did a school for NRCS design engineers in Wilmer. I think it was about a year ago, and it was a great success. I think we can, if we put our minds to it and come up with a good curriculum, I think we can continue to take it to the rest of the industry in small groups just like this.

Jamie Duininck (05:04):

Yeah, for sure, and I’ve been around long enough to… when you’re talking that we’ve tried a lot of different things, at least talked about a lot of different things because up here in the upper Midwest and the Prairie Pothole region, there are a lot of different views, a lot of diversity of thinking and of views, and I’m pretty passionate personally just about what we do is a really good thing and what you guys do every day is a really good thing for the landscape and it makes money for farmers, which provides a tax base, which builds school systems in rural communities and hospitals and allows for the owners of your company to continue to reinvest in the business and pay you guys more and add more employees. And so it’s just down the road, it’s creating an economic engine that is so important for rural America. So I get pretty passionate about all of that and continuing to find ways to tell our story.

Karl Guetter (06:04):

It’s important also that we can tell our story because I think for you guys, your customers are going to change, right? I mean, they always talk about the transfer of land, right? Who’s the next landowner going to be? Who’s that person going to be? And those people that you’re going to have to deal with and talk to, they’re going to be a broad spectrum of folks. I mean, and there’s more diversity out there today and there’s a real push for change in the way we treat land, change in the way there’s tillage practice changes, right? I mean, we’ve got a ton more cover crops today than we did in the past. So people are doing things differently. I think the farmer is going to change in the future. So I think it’s important that you guys can tell the story as well.

Jamie Duininck (06:51):

And as we see this change, there will be practice changes, not only people changes, but practice, like you’re saying, the cover crops, but also just diversity of crops. That’s one of the things in the Red River Valley. There’s a lot of other crops, in particular, a lot of sugar beets growing, but they’re seeing a lot of the water quality benefits of having a diverse rotation than just corn, soybeans. And I think that is one of the places where there will… I don’t want to use words like mandate, but I think it’s going to change and we’re going to have more diversity on the landscape.

Karl Guetter (07:29):

For sure. Should we grab another one?

Jamie Duininck (07:31):

Sure.

Karl Guetter (07:32):

All right, here’s the next one. How are companies handling the uncertainty in ag with the recent policy changes?

Jamie Duininck (07:42):

I don’t know that we, from my perspective, that we’ve gone far enough into that to know. And with things like tariffs, I think there’s so much unknown out there that people are a little bit in a, I wouldn’t call it a panic mode yet, but a wait and see and knowing that there’s a lot of change happening and the uncertainty creates the lack of being able to plan into the long-term future. So I don’t know that I can answer that in a way of how… you probably can answer that a little bit better from the standpoint of view also. Your side job is farming, so…

Karl Guetter (08:22):

I think there’s a lot of nervousness. I don’t know if I’d say it’s uncertainty. Ag economy is no different than any other economy, right? I mean, it’s cyclical. It fluctuates. It goes up and it goes down. We’re in a low spot, right, and now, we have obviously policy changes in a different political environment right now, so it maybe adds a little more uncertainty. I don’t know if we handle it all that different as a company. I mean, at the end of the day, when we have our internal meetings within Prinsco, what do we have to do to do the right things, right, and just try to stay the course and do the right things and do what we need to do to be successful. So I don’t think we necessarily change, other than just we keep a closer ear to the ground maybe and maybe a little more uncertainty, a little nervousness. I don’t think we change.

Jamie Duininck (09:09):

Yeah. Yeah. I think another question here that really dovetails what you just said is how will the tariffs on Canadian imports impact farmers in the ag economy? I think it’s kind of the same thing. We don’t know yet, but there is a lot of concern. I actually did a podcast that’ll be released in two weeks this morning with a Canadian that is a farmer and a journalist and has a pretty good understanding of tariffs and what will happen.

(09:42):

But one of the things in there that we talked about that’s interesting is just the idea that most of the Canadian population is within 150 miles of the US border. 80% of Canada’s total population is very close to the US border. Not true with the US. We have very little of our population is along the Canadian border, but there are businesses in those small rural communities in Minnesota, North Dakota, Montana, all the way across that are impacted by these quite a bit by tariffs in that our shipping product back and forth have customer base in Canada. So will we be affected by that if this lasts long-term? We will in some cases, but there are a group of people that are probably significantly impacted.

Karl Guetter (10:30):

Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, the length of the tariff obviously will make the biggest difference. But there’ll be short-term pain, right, from the, I think, specifically the equipment manufacturers or some steel that goes back and forth, whether it be grain carts or grain bins or whatever the case may be. And we get a few of our raw materials out of Canada, so it’s going to make a different short-term. I don’t know if it’s enough to make us change how we do things yet.

(11:01):

All right. Let’s pick another one. “With the changes in climate, wet springs, hot summers, et cetera, where do you see drainage water recycling headed? How can we reduce cost and improve implementation?”

(11:17):

I will say that in regard to drainage water, drainage recycling, and water management, you didn’t hear about it five years ago. I mean, maybe if you went to a very specific seminar probably at a university somewhere, you really didn’t hear about it. Two years ago when the drought was probably in its height in Iowa, the conversation really started picking up again. There’s a few pilot projects that are going on right now. I think they’ve been fairly successful.

(11:49):

The rest of the question was how do we reduce costs and improve implementation? I’m not sure about the reduced cost part. I would imagine that as a practice becomes more popular, right, and they perfect the techniques, typically, the cost will go down. So I’m fairly certain the industry itself will take care of that, right? If there’s jobs to be done and guys get really good at doing them, it’ll eventually drive down the cost.

(12:15):

Improving implementation? I think that just comes down to as soon as it makes financial sense, people will do it.

Jamie Duininck (12:25):

And like you said, we didn’t hear about this five years ago. Some of you younger guys in the room, I think in your lifetimes, water’s going to become expensive in a lot of areas and then all of a sudden, is it really that expensive to put in a recycling system if water costs a lot. Right now, it is. And like you say, as practices improve and installation practices improve, could become more competitive, it’s going to reduce that. But it’s always going to be a more expensive system, obviously, to implement than just install a drainage system with the outlet pipe into a ditch. I mean, that’s not going to be the same, so it’s going to be more expensive. But as water becomes more important, it might not be an expensive system compared to just letting go of that water. There could be changes in regards to that too, but I do think it’s something that definitely has grown but will grow kind of exponentially over the next 10 years compared to where it was five years ago.

Karl Guetter (13:30):

Well, at some point in time, and this is my theory, at some point in time, if a farmer can control your fertilizer, you can control your seed. There’s a lot of things you can control. Not with you guys’ help in the room, right? We can kind of control the water table as far as controlling the up and down of it. But in 20 years from now, if we really want to see 300, 400, and 500 bushel corn, whatever we hope to get to someday, I do feel like we’re going to have to figure out how to bring that water back, some way, shape, or form. So eventually, it’ll be financially beneficial to keep your water.

Jamie Duininck (14:04):

Yeah. The first time I ever saw one of these systems was about 23 years ago in Canada in Manitoba, and the farmer had spent a lot of money for this system, but it was an area that didn’t have a lot of water, so it was either that or irrigation. And he put together a system in which he had the ability to store about three and a half inches of water in his recycling system and then was recycling it and he had a lot of salinity problems. So the drainage piece was really important and that’s what he said is all of a sudden, he controlled weather and I mean, it was a risk and a lot of expense to get there, but once it was in place, he never looked back and his business grew significantly because of it.

Karl Guetter (15:01):

The other part of it is you have a lot of other input providers that are going to be interested in helping with this, right? I mean, your seed corn guy, he wants you to raise 300-bushel corn, right, because he’s selling you seed corn. I don’t care if it’s seed corn, your fertilizer, everyone benefits. So I do feel like there will eventually be a push towards this. There’ll be a lot of people that get behind it. Whether or not the government gets behind, whether or not it gets subsidized in some way, shape, or form, I don’t know yet, but I wouldn’t doubt it at all.

Jamie Duininck (15:28):

Yeah, I think it probably will. So Karl, tell me about… I know you farm and you work with Prinsco and I know you like to go fishing in the summer, so what do you think, when you get roots in pipe because of trees or an alfalfa field or whatever and you got to be out there in July and working on that rather than fishing?

Karl Guetter (15:48):

Well, I don’t go out there and work on it. I make my brother go. He tells me I can go to the lake in the summer, so… roots and pipe. I mean, tree roots and pipe has been a problem for a long time, but I’m not sure that’s our real concern moving forward. I think everyone knows what you have to do to try and prevent it and sometimes, you can’t and sometimes, it’s just plow in a new line or whatever the case may be.

(16:09):

But with different farming practices, cover crops, buffers along ditches, grasses, right, grasses, and really any deep-rooted item, I mean, we’ve had some problems in the past with sugar beets and things that are very deep-rooted getting into the tile. Typically not a plugging up and destroying the system scenario, but with the new practices, I’m a little curious how that might play out specifically because it feels like, and you guys could tell me if I’m wrong, it feels like we have a push towards shallower tile and closer spacings. So we’re going to bring our tile closer to the root zone, right?

(16:48):

So will it be an issue? I think, well obviously, time will tell, but it’s going to have to be a factor, I think, moving forward as we keep going away from no-till, more cover crops, not destroying those roots, and just getting the tile closer to the surface. We’re not going to put anything in the pipe that roots won’t grow in there. I can tell you that right now.

Jamie Duininck (17:12):

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Another question here is “is there a future plan, are there future plans to make a locking bell and gasket for dual wall?”

(17:23):

You’re going to ask me that question, but I’m asking you.

Karl Guetter (17:28):

No, that’s fine. A dual wall bell and spigot will more than likely change in the future. [inaudible 00:17:37] near future, not… making it locking? Not that I’m aware of. We get crazy ideas all the time. Sometimes even when we’re driving down the road in our pickup, something sounds really easy and we give it to the engineering team and they tell you you’re crazy. So with that said, sometimes, all it takes is an idea. So I would never rule anything out. I think our design team is really good at, I think, the industry really is really good at looking at new options and trying it. There’s really nothing that says you can’t do it. So I mean, there’s certainly the possibility.

Jamie Duininck (18:12):

Yeah, absolutely. It can be done. It’s to whether it makes sense. And how I want to answer that question is just Prinsco is the leader in innovation and agriculture when it comes to the plastic pipe side. And we have a whole team. That’s why we’re doing this drainage school here today. I don’t think we have competitors doing stuff like this. And when you guys come up with ideas, share them, share them with their salesman, and if you don’t hear anything back, the salesman probably didn’t tell the engineering team. So get on the salesman and tell them to… not everything works, but we’re always interested in hearing new things and trying to figure out how they would work, so…

Karl Guetter (18:55):

Right. Usually, when it looks really easy then there’s 18 reasons why it can work and it can’t work. But we’re certainly interested, for sure.

Jamie Duininck (19:06):

For sure.

Karl Guetter (19:08):

Okay, next one. Sure. “How would you describe the evolution of drainage in the 50 years Prinsco has been in business?”

Jamie Duininck (19:21):

Say that again? I was reading another one.

Karl Guetter (19:24):

“How would you describe the evolution of drainage in the 50 years Prinsco has been in business.” You only know half of it. You’ve not have been around.

Jamie Duininck (19:33):

Because I haven’t been around for 50 years, but yeah, I mean, what’s really interesting about that is when I started was right when the yield monitor was really taking. I think yield monitor was maybe four or five years before I started, but where people were really seeing the results of a yield monitor and that, “Hey, I’m going over this tile line and my yields are bumping 50 bushels an acre. What does that mean for me?”

(19:59):

Before that time, it was all in our area of Minnesota. I don’t know about some other areas, but it was all random tiling and we have this wet place and this field shows up every year. Let’s put an eight-inch down here and a couple of laterals off from the eight-inch. And then guess what happened the next year? That wet spot moved over to this part of the field. Well, let’s go over here.

(20:22):

And then the yield monitor comes in and it bounces yields when they’re in that area of the field and that was really when we started seeing the pattern drainage. And in my early years of ’97 to probably 2002, it was a lot of five-inch, some six-inch in western Iowa’s laterals and then progressing to where most people are four-inch and now some people are using three-inch, but the real progression was 120 feet spacings and then let’s split them at 60, then let’s split them at 30 or 80 to 40. Those kinds of things is really what we’ve seen in that 25 years, for me.

Karl Guetter (21:05):

I think it’s just been fascinating. We’ve got a couple guys in Red River Valley in the audience here, but what’s been fascinating for me, I think I started selling tile in 2002 or 2003 is quite a while ago, but watching the migration of pattern tiling move around the country. Like North Dakota, for example? You would’ve thought mostly drainage techniques started in the east and they kind of moved to the west, right, but for whatever reason, obviously starting to grow corn in the Valley and things like that made a difference.

(21:32):

But how that idea of pattern tiling has hopped and skipped around the country, right, whether that be following equipment manufacturers, right, or whether it be following drainage contractors themselves, it’s just been kind of fun to watch that migration across the country. And I’ve always been amazed at how fast North Dakota has hopped on the pattern tiling bandwagon, how early and when they hopped on, it was both feet in, hold your breath, and jump, right?

Jamie Duininck (22:02):

Yeah. I do think, though, that it’s interesting how, and I talked about this in the podcast or recorded this morning, but how in that case you’re 100% right, but still how hard it is to get information to transfer. When I started and we were trying to get in and you were involved in that. Karl and I used to be competitors, but you were involved in that too. And in the Red River Valley, you’re taking the same thing from… let’s just use Mankato, Minnesota and people were tiling, pattern tiling like crazy there. And you try to bring that in the early 2000s to the Red River Valley with the same banking systems and the bankers up there would be like, “Well, we’re not going to loan money to these guys. That doesn’t work.” It’s like, “Well, why don’t you call your branch and Mankato and talk to them” because it does work and they’ll tell you that probably the number one thing they’ll loan for a farmer too is drainage at the time.

(22:55):

And so it continues. In that case, once they got on board, they really went fast in the Valley. However, there’s a border, an international border, and you go across that international border into Canada, right along the Red River, no one still tiles. You have to go 20 miles, 30 miles to the west before get into potato country and they tile there because it’s a high dollar crop. They’ve seen the benefits of it, but you can go right up to the border and they’re tiling all along the Red River Valley but not north of the border. And I don’t understand why that information doesn’t transfer better.

Karl Guetter (23:34):

Maybe they don’t have Facebook up there. I don’t know.

Jamie Duininck (23:38):

Could be.

Karl Guetter (23:38):

Could be.

Jamie Duininck (23:40):

So and that is true. And the transfer, I think, to give people, from my perspective, some encouragement around what’s going to happen is… the other thing, story I tell is my oldest child, they’ll be 24 on May 5. First trip I made about three weeks after she was born was to Canada on a trip with Kent Rodelius to understand what was going on in Ontario between Detroit and Toronto. And they were tiling then, 2000, 2001 in that timeframe at 30-foot spacings. And we were like just blown away. 80-foot was probably kind of the closest we were going here. And now, we’re starting to see here moving to fifties to forties. They’re at… in some cases in those same people we went and saw are tiling at 10-foot spacings in some cases up there. So I don’t see any reason why that progression won’t continue to happen and why we aren’t more connected to it around understanding how well that’s working and then promoting it.

Karl Guetter (24:52):

So here’s the harder question. What’s going to be the next 10 years?

Jamie Duininck (24:56):

Right? That’s what I’m saying is we really need to understand how well that’s working and then if it’s working really well be out in front of it, rather than just letting it happen. Be the first to adopt it.

Karl Guetter (25:10):

For sure. All right, what else we got up here? That’s the dual wall one.

Jamie Duininck (25:22):

Well, here’s one that I can ask. I’ll ask you because I don’t know. How does the current uncertainty compare to other times in history? What lessons did we learn from history?

Karl Guetter (25:34):

I’m not old enough for that, I don’t think. I don’t know. As far as the ag economy?

Jamie Duininck (25:38):

Yeah.

Karl Guetter (25:39):

Or just the drainage?

Jamie Duininck (25:40):

Well, it doesn’t ask the question, but if that’s how you want to ask it.

Karl Guetter (25:49):

This is a cop out, but I don’t know if we can tell how close it’s going to resemble other times in history until after it’s over, right? I mean, it’s going to be… we have to get out of this one, right, and start working our way back up into a better agricultural economic position before we can either think, really say how it compared or hindsight’s always the easy part, right? Otherwise, we were just guessing.

Jamie Duininck (26:15):

I’m not going to answer that one. I’ll ask another question because I got a better answer for this. “If you could ask President Trump one question on behalf of the ag community, what would it be?”

(26:25):

And for me, I’m going to say on behalf of the drainage here, from behalf of this community, I think that if we can get some certainty that things like waters of the US don’t come back, if we can get some certainty on overreach from people like U.S. Fish and Wildlife, EPA and it’s crazy to me to think that in my career, there’s been farmers that have been intimidated by U.S. Fish and Wildlife officers coming on their farm sites with their uniforms on and weapons and that’s pretty intimidating and saying you violated the law.

(27:09):

So there needs to be some clarity and there needs to be some long-term certainty on what you can and can’t do. We have it already. There are laws. Let’s just follow those laws rather than trying to have overreach within our government and I think the timing and the administration we have is poised to do that. Just got to have the courage to do it.

Karl Guetter (27:31):

Yeah, I would absolutely echo the uncertainty part. I would encourage or ask Trump and his team to figure out a way to… whether it be uncertainty or just to stabilize how the farm industry works with government, so it’s not always a ping pong ball trying to figure out what you have to participate in, what hoops you have to jump through, how you have to position yourself to try and make sure you win on both organically on your farm and also working with the programs that government hands down.

Jamie Duininck (28:07):

Right. For sure.

Karl Guetter (28:09):

Not chasing your tail all the time.

Jamie Duininck (28:11):

Well, as we wrap this up, want to know if there’s any other questions that you guys… thanks for submitting all these questions earlier today, but anything that we said maybe spur any thought or anything you want to add?

(28:28):

Yes, sir?

Speaker 3 (28:29):

You guys touched on it a little bit. I’ve had a couple different growers ask me. I’ve had a couple different growers ask me, “How long do you recommend alfalfa be in a field that’s piled before it starts getting dangerous, being put in piling?”

Karl Guetter (28:45):

I’m the wrong guy to ask.

Jamie Duininck (28:49):

I don’t know that. I mean, I’m going to ask the audience if they have… what I’ve been told is four years, but I am not an expert on that. And we have a lot of other people that have probably dealt with this more than I have. Anybody have any thoughts on that? Come on. Even if you don’t, just tell us. This is a live podcast. No, I’m kidding.

Speaker 4 (29:13):

I can say something.

Jamie Duininck (29:14):

Sure.

Speaker 4 (29:17):

[inaudible 00:29:17]. Riverview Dairy is there a lot. Riverview Dairy, there is a lot and there’s a lot of hay and typically, yes, four years, it seems like is what they do it. And we’ll come in and pattern a field after it’s those four years and then roots are all like at four or five, six feet deep sometimes. So maybe four years has got to be the most they can go because always… even three, they’re probably down in the tile lines if it’s patterned, I suppose.

Jamie Duininck (29:46):

Thank you.

(29:51):

Anything else? Well, again, I just want to thank everybody for being here, being part of this industry. The longer you’re here, the more you build relationships. And Karl’s the type of guy, he doesn’t need to be here. He makes all kinds of money on the farm. So if it’s about money, he wouldn’t be here. But it isn’t about. It’s about relationships and a passion for making agriculture better and each and every one of you guys are doing that. And my hope is that the Water Table can help educate as we move forward that you can go back to episodes, find something that you might be arguing with somebody about in the bar or whatever it might be, and use what we have said to the advantage of water management into agriculture. So thank you all for what you do. It is National Egg Week. We didn’t mention that. So thank you for all you do for agriculture and as customers of Prinsco and anything we can do to help you, please let us know

Karl Guetter (30:59):

And we extend the offer. If any of you would like to come on a podcast, right, and tell your story, we love having contractors or just people from the industry come on the podcast and tell their story. I think it’s just good to… well, it’s good for a lot of different reasons, but it just puts names with faces. It puts faces with real people. And I think it makes a difference in the industry. We’re not the devil, right? We’re just out here trying to manage water, make land better.

Jamie Duininck (31:28):

It’s a cool way to tell your story. So thank you all. Have a great day.

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